can i use a toner after colour b4

Ive used Colour B4 a few times in the past, however I remember the last time I used it, my hair 're-oxidised' and turned dark again over the next couple of days! Many people are very grey around the front and believe they are this silver colour throughout. Because this hair has been pre-lightened, it will lift further and then tone to a very good lightest ash shade. Do not do a whole head stripping, as because your hair is now patchy it won’t strip evenly. Hi, it’s good you did a strand test because it sounds to me as though your hair could have a build-up of silicone or product residue that is making a barrier on the hair and preventing Decolour Remover entering and evoking change. Colour B4 was formulated to work successfully removing permanent colour in … Soap caps remove unwanted color and tones from hair in a quick 10-minute session. Help can I put on my normal brown shade straight away? From this point you will start seeing the underlying grey hair appear as a nicotine yellow. The 9 base is a light blonde, the 17 pigment is the ash violet. If you would like to use a semi-permanent (peroxide based) colour after using Colourless, firstly condition well and then apply the colourant to damp towel dried hair – this evens porosity and reduces the risk of colour grabbing. 4 years ago. Hi, I dyed my hair a dark brown (naturally a lighter brown) and it went very dark, I used your hair colour remover to try take it back to its original colour, although it’s gone very ‘warmth’/ red, is it okay if I now re dye it a lighter cool brown colour (closer to my natural colour) or will that not work? Hi There. From your description (blue,purple,ombre) it sounds like the colour is kind of removing, but you have patches of colour. Firstly, get yourself a Denman Magicap. 0. All Rights Reserved. I followed the instructions properly. Also, when natural white hair is treated with hydrogen peroxide (as found in colourants), it decolourises this white hair to yellow. Best Scott, Desperately wanting to remove red permanent dye out so I can go blond again, Hi Cassie, if it’s a permanent red you should be fine getting this out with Decolour Remover. After using B4 it’s far better to ‘rest’ the hair for at least a week and allow the hair to normalise (as you would do after a perm or straightening). hair dryer, straighteners, that basically cooks the colour into the strands of hair. Indeed a lot of people use Decolour Stripper to lighten out their roots to blonde. A hair colour remover is not designed to remove direct dyes. However, once you remove the artificial colour, that lightning can be seen, and it often looks warm. When trying to expose natural white/grey you need to be mindful that you may not be completely white or silver throughout. Decolour Remover can only work on oxidation permanent colourant. Because of this, I’m very diligent in my care and conditioning so it’s actually in better nick than it was years ago when I used to bleach with abandonment ! But let me know what shade you are now and as said, I will try to advise best route. Hi Scott I have the same problem I died mine artic fox Transylvania diluted blue and it’s come out from baking soda and shampoo mainly but iv got a a light green tinge I can’t get rid of I tried the colour De colour remover and it’s not worked do you have any ideas please. Best Scott, Hello just came across your colour remover in the supermarket so googled for reviews and come across this post… I have naturally blonde hair but have used box dyes (brown to now black) for a fair few years now would the colour remover work or would it be better to strip it? Next, mix up your L’Oreal Light Ash Blonde as instructed, and apply it to all the hair pulled through the cap that has just been stripped and dried. I didn’t use any other products except the finisher in the box. Applying the white conditioner to the hair (before the pink), dilutes the pink a little. So you have two opposing technologies. I’ve bought your hair stripper but now am unsure if I need the stripper or remover. It sounds an odd suggestion, but I would actually recommend you apply a pastel lavender shade to this hair (after removal). These colour molecules then start to enlarge again and this causes the re-oxidation. After the above treatment, you can add further highlights if you want (to go lighter still). I think the best approach would be to undertake a stripping but via a balayage application. I’m so confused! Coat your hair in a standard white conditioner, comb it fully then apply the light pastel pink shade to the hair and work it through. You will need to use such a shampoo once you are grey/white anyway. Or is it best to apply another Colour B4 & see how that turns out again? You need to apply those balayage panels (via stripping) as you want to break up all those uneven areas. To neutralise this, buy a very light pastel pink. You want those newly lightened sections segregated from the rest of the hair. It’s a mixture of a reminance of the blue and the yellow of the hair/keratin. Firstly, switch to using only a blue shampoo as your regular cleanser. Best Scott, Hi scott over the years I have dyed my hair alot at the moment my hair is naturally dark blonde/light brown but I put bright red on it then I got bored of that and put blue on it now I have a blue/purple/blonde ombre look not purposely done like that so I bought your hair colour remover now I’m not sure if I needed the decolour stripper what’s your advice x. Hi Rebecca, you cannot use Reduction agent hair colours on vibrant colours,unless they were oxidation shades. Its now a patchy gingery/lilac almost, I need to know, if I use a colour remover and then a wella t18 toner will this work to bring me back to blonde? 22/06/14 - 21:42 #9. In the UK I have a shade called Colour Restore Lilac Grey for this purpose, but I don’t believe that is on sale in Australia. Good tip, is to pluck the crochet hook in very quickly and pull straight out with the hook at positioned at an almost horizontal angle. Hi, I just did a strand test with the Decolour hair colour remover super strength remover. As it should break off any deposits of silicone that may be sitting on the hair. Therefore, when people with grey or white hair use a hair colour remover, they do not expose the grey, but instead, tend to get a blonde or warm blonde result. If I use the colour remover will my hair go orange? You need to make sure all those old colour pigments are gone before using your previous shampoo or re-colouring. ©2020 Hearst UK is the trading name of the National Magazine Company Ltd, 30 Panton Street, Leicester Square, London, SW1Y 4AJ. Remember, the more you use purple shampoos, the cooler your hair will become. Before you reach for the hair dye remover, read these expert tips to make sure you colour correct like a pro. However, I am mindful of your condition. This happens, because peroxide has been applied to your natural brown hair and it will have lightened it. Thankyou :)), I would recommend you use Decolour Remover. Whilst this sounds a strange suggestion, adding a violet tone to this rusty removed brown hair will combine with the unwanted red tone and give the hair a richness. That’s a common and easy issue to fix. Since lockdown, I am now asked this question a lot, so I will write a full article on the subject of growing colour out to grey. A quick tip I can give you is to keep a mug of salt water by you as you rinse and midway run this through the hair. The dye has some form of silicone in it that reacts to heat e.g. Best Scott. Scott recommends that if you need to dye your hair after using Colour B4 to only use a non permanent toner, this is because a Semi permanent contains peroxide and you then run the risk of it oxidizing and turning the hair too dark again . Hi Jessie. I don’t want orange hair, and don’t know what to do. If so, you're in the same boat as me. Thank You x. Hi Jill, No don’t use a permanent just yet. If you prefer darker or brunette hair, always ensure you only apply colourants to your regrowth and do not apply throughout the hair – this will prevent colour build-up. BUY NOW. You then pull through the hair using the 4 inch lines as a guide. The key to successful hair colour is achieving a good base shade. I hope that helps, best Scott. Do not panic but just appreciate you might have to suffer this warmth for a week, because you cannot apply a permanent colourant immediately after using Decolour Remover. I was quite worried about using it esp after hearing about the terrible smell but even that wasn't too bad really. Therefore, you will likely require two Decolour Remover treatments to get the pigment build-up out of the hair. Lightened hair can look brighter when first coloured, and will often calm down over the following days, so give it time and reserve your judgement before attempting to go darker. A toner won’t lighten your hair, but dyeing or bleaching will. You should be able to use Decolour Remover on it. Then immediately after removal use Colour Restore Iced Platinum and tone the exposed yellow hair back to white. I am recommending this for the process I am about to suggest, because I know Decolour Stripper is kinder on hair that has been multi-processed and will enable you do a second process afterwards. Generally, I recommend a quick fix for that rusty orange you see sometimes (when you remove) as being my Lilac Grey Colour Restore. So you might need to build the neutralisation up. Next, (with the cap still on), rinse the stripper off the hair and use the conclude balm as instructed in the pack. With orange you want to neutralise it. But remember Decolour Stripper is designed to create a canvas so you can apply a new permanent colourant. If it does reoxidise, come back to me and I will tell you what to do next. You need to get hair to a pale yellow to get it to tone to a white/light blonde. Anyway, 15 minutes and it had gone ORANGE!!!! I have naturally darkest brown hair & have got black dyed hair, with lots of build up over the years (including caramel high lift highlights). Then afterwards leave a few washes until you dye it as the blonde dye might react and reoxidse turning it red again. I will at some point write an article on re-oxidation and what causes it, as it’s a very strange phenomena and can sometimes be hard to pin down. A colour remover contains a reduction agent, which works only on destroying the artificial colour molecule so that it can be flushed from the hair; it cannot affect the natural pigments in the hair. I used a natural black die about 6 months ago and I want to go back to my natural. When you apply a colour remover, it takes out the artificial darker pigment but exposes that underlying warmth. I’ve read and reread every word from every product on your website. This will not compromise your condition. Hi Scott – I am after some advice please? Hope you can help. How would I strip my hair so it was even and not as two toned (or 4 toned)… so I then have an even base to apply the copper red to? Toning balayage, foilayage or foil highlights makes them look subtler, more natural and frankly, more expensive! Because your natural colour is dark brown, you are going to see more and more red, the more your natural colour is exposed. Hi Scott, Ive just finished my first treatment of the hair colour remover, I am also wanting to grow my natural grey, my hair was red and now its a lightly ginger brown. I did buy a medium brown non permanent in preparation and applied it after using the second pack of Colour B4, but it didn’t blend my roots into the ends. Permanent colourants contain hydrogen peroxide in varying strengths, but often in a strong enough volume to lighten hair by a couple of shades. I tried another Colour B4 & my hair is more golden now but still has those red/copper tones. From what I can gather, Cool Ash is what you recommend however, I can’t help but think that I would essentially be going through the process to end up with still brown hair a couple of tones lighter than I am now with the “gloss” and it’s only an assumption that it is really a semi permanent colour or rinse as we call it in Australia. Pastel shades like pale mint green hair or pastel blue hair generally require the two steps described above—lightening, followed by a toner overlay. I dyed it the same shade once more, and now am unable to dye it again as I don’t want to damage my hair further. Laser printers produce electrostatically charged dots on a light-sensitive drum which attracts the toner powder. If a colour is too dark, try to remove it immediately or within 48 hours. Do not apply a peroxide-based colourant immediately after using a hair colour remover. I did use your clarifying shampoo beforehand. Best Scott, Hello, Lottie! I've heard using baby shampoos may stop this. Thanks a lot, reading all the Q&A really helped me understand and this remover is AMAZING! This has all been over one month, my hair has shown no sign of damage or weakness which has been wonderful! Use Decolour Remover again, and you should see the grey exposed as a kind of nicotine yellow (this is normal). The smell wasn't even that bad really, not as awful as I thought it would be. Just wondering if you use the colour stripper (blue box) do you have to dye your hair or can you just leave it if you like the colour it comes out with. Can you please advise? Media and Fashion depict going grey as this sudden transition to pure white. The exposed warmth is a secondary matter on which I will advise. So unfortunately, I … Best Scott. This will give you a light pale base. Best Scott. Please note that on our website we use cookies that optimise performance and ensure our users have the best experience. If you have established that it was the shade that has caused your hair to go warm, golden, copper or red due to the secondary tones featured in the product, applying a hair colour remover should rectify this issue. Black Cherry isn’t that dark in reality, but it does have a nice healthy plum tone that works well with exposed warmth. I would then like to put a pastel pink in it. Usually with blue shades, the blue comes out but it kind of warps the natural yellow in the hair with a mild blue tinge, this causes a mint green colour – as you say, like you get from a swimming pool. This will pull through finner weaves of hair. Generally, very grey hair will tend to look a faded nicotine yellow when you remove, whereas less grey hair will look a rusty or coppery brown. I checked your articles and FAQs for further advice. Grey hair is formed from a mixture of white hair and naturally dark hair. Hi Natalie, that light green tinge is a really weird thing that seems to happen when you get blue out of the hair. Best Scott, Thank you so much Scott! I have dyed my level 6 hair with an 8.1 dye which came out brown so i tried removing this colour with a vit c and shampoo. If you use my Decolour Remover product (which is the red box) you will get the brown out, but you are going to see warmth. However, when they remove they discover they are not as grey as they thought they were. Ok, I have naturally medium brown hair with a few greys. Using a tint brush helps you can get the mixed product down to the roots and along to the ends. After you have done this, for the next 7 days use a simple shampoo such as Baby Shampoo and do not re-colour your hair. I should add: I have Hypothyroidism which has meant I’ve lost about 30% of my hair in the last 5 years – twice ! But it sounds like something is blocking it. Another tip is to use as hot (as you can stand) steaming water to rinse. If you are thinking about getting highlights in the future, I wouldn’t worry too much about trying to get your overall base lightened. When I got to the rinsing stage, I rinsed for 5 mins, and as per one of your other responses to hair re-darkening, I wrapped in a towel for half an hour and then rinsed again. By stripping in panels, then spending 6 to 8 weeks allowing the hair to rest and only using a semi-permanent colourant, your hair will normalise and in a couple of months take a permanent colourant well. That faded quickly and I ended up with a copper again. However, I may have the opposite problem. It's going to be ginger toned, but get yourself an Ash toned semi permanent to throw on after, and this will counteract the ginger/bleached parts. It’s better if you have someone at hand who can pull the hair through the cap. Normally, a toner is used after bleaching to remove these tones and deposit a sheer layer of color over bleached hair. Still too dark and ginger. 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